Yeah, I think people hate Mary Sues because they are ridiculously idealized versions of the writer: you have this near-flawless character who is good at everything, whom everyone loves (particularly the hero/protagonist), who helps everyone solve their problems, etc. Perhaps the president-fucker is not idealized, but hey, she gets to bang a lot of presidents! So there! There is a bit of self-glorification there.
but even then artists popped up all the time in their work... look at Leo!
Yes. Good point! Somehow it seemed less obvious, and perhaps more organic/integrated into the artwork. More subtle? Leo wasn't showing up to help Jesus get out of the crucifixion ("JC, I have a plan!") or to have one last wild fling. Well, who knows, maybe if Leo was around today, he might have such a concept simmering....
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Date: 2009-03-29 06:21 pm (UTC)but even then artists popped up all the time in their work... look at Leo!
Yes. Good point! Somehow it seemed less obvious, and perhaps more organic/integrated into the artwork. More subtle? Leo wasn't showing up to help Jesus get out of the crucifixion ("JC, I have a plan!") or to have one last wild fling. Well, who knows, maybe if Leo was around today, he might have such a concept simmering....