the sensual curve of the cashews

[theholyinnocent]

Not sure it was wise to look at this before lunchtime (as intriguing as the series of paintings are, but if I want to look at old, lumpy white flesh I'll take a gander in the mirror, thank you.) It does, however, provide ample inspiration for me to move forward with my next project: prose poems of me having sex with famous Unitarians while we're all eating mixed nuts. What can I say? I am terribly ambitious.

Comments

[stargazer1960.livejournal.com]

I'm feeling horribly un-nutty at the moment?

[theholyinnocent.livejournal.com]

You need to get better soon, sweets. Have a peaceful, restful Sunday!

[noir-moll.livejournal.com]

I will never look at the faces on our currency the same way again.

[theholyinnocent.livejournal.com]

It's only a matter of time before you have BDSM dreams about Ulysses Grant...

[maroukian.livejournal.com]

yes...

you are terribly ambitious.

i've no idea what else to say

except--- hope all's well and I miss you :) we've GOT to get together...
I'll email you. In NY soon.

[theholyinnocent.livejournal.com]

We miss you too! Drop me a line and let's see if we can get together on your next jaunt to the city.

[sandyosullivan.livejournal.com]

They are magnificent, no? I think it's great that two completely unrelated friends on my list came up with the exact same link and said very different things about it (neither particularly flattering) - to the extent that I didn't even guess it would be the same site!

You are ambitious, and here is the best evidence I can give that ambition doesn't always give you what you truly deserve THI!

[theholyinnocent.livejournal.com]

Admittedly, in the context of the artist's statement about the work, I felt I had a better grasp of what she was trying to accomplish. And while I'm still not crazy about them, she does win points for uniqueness. (Although it did bring to mind those dreadful statues or whatever that Jeff Koons did with his pornstar ex. Ugh. Those things scarred me for life.) Inserting oneself into your own artwork is so very Mary Sue; it kind of detracts from what the artist is trying to do. At least for me, anyway.

[sandyosullivan.livejournal.com]

The Koons thing is interesting eh? I really spent years not liking Koons at all, although I really like some of his work (no, not that work, but it's hard not to love Puppy) and yes, it's derivative, and yes it looks like a cardboard cut-out version of Magritte, but I saw that doco that they did on Koons recently, and what struck me for the first time is that the guy is totally like the middle aged bloke who goes to work every day and runs this business... and suddenly I sort of felt sorry for him and saw him a bit like Pollock (who was, indeed, a pillock), as someone so wrapped up in the trappings of the past, that it's kind of why he tries to build a future in such a referential way. It really was a moment of revelation. And this work... these presidents having sex with the artist stuff... I don't mind, though I like the concept a bit more than the execution (which speaks to my lowly love of literal depth - a 3ding effect - in works, that this lacks), the work gets to me not so much cos its postmodern and sort of jars your gaze, but cos their is a subtlety to the emotions that I think is probably a winner.

I always put myself into my work, so in that way, always a Mary Sue... I never really understand the concept of the removal of the artist from the work, it had a moment through the 1400s-early 2000s in European art, sure... but even then artists popped up all the time in their work... look at Leo! But truthfully its less Mary Sue for me (in my own work and in other self-including work, it's more about that connectedness... I think the difference between a Mary Sue (from Fan Fiction) is that FF is always derived from an existing work by someone else, and so the inclusion of a character that represents the writer is both strange and interjects too much of the writer on the canon of the work... at least that's my impression of why people hate the Mary Sue... I have to confess, while I don't like them, I have spent a LOT of hours laughing at bad fan fiction with Mary Sue's in it... choice!

[sandyosullivan.livejournal.com]

Less apostrophes and unclosed parentheses!

[theholyinnocent.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think people hate Mary Sues because they are ridiculously idealized versions of the writer: you have this near-flawless character who is good at everything, whom everyone loves (particularly the hero/protagonist), who helps everyone solve their problems, etc. Perhaps the president-fucker is not idealized, but hey, she gets to bang a lot of presidents! So there! There is a bit of self-glorification there.

but even then artists popped up all the time in their work... look at Leo!

Yes. Good point! Somehow it seemed less obvious, and perhaps more organic/integrated into the artwork. More subtle? Leo wasn't showing up to help Jesus get out of the crucifixion ("JC, I have a plan!") or to have one last wild fling. Well, who knows, maybe if Leo was around today, he might have such a concept simmering....

[adastranot.livejournal.com]

Darling, it reminds me of our performance art phase. You were nimble, I was limber, vegetable oil by the gallon was cheap.

[theholyinnocent.livejournal.com]

Darling, it speaks highly of you that I was willing to forgo my usual preference for EVOO.